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Phillip E Tague's avatar

I'm in. Whatever it takes. One thing I am noting...talking about movement is fun and exciting. Movement is difficult and scary. Movements have martyrs.

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David Drury's avatar

This is a great start in these conversations and I am eager to read more of this. I am particularly interested in if we can at some point clearly articulate again what are our "shared beliefs and a common cause." I wonder if you were to bring 100 Wesleyans into a room and they each built that list and could only write 3 things, would they come up with more like 75 different things, and the "shared" and "common" would be too varied these days.

I have other questions, such as:

-Are our plans “too small a thing” as in Isaiah 49:6? Is God wanting to build a movement much bigger than a refresh of our little denomination. That seems to be how God works.

-Will the new Wesleyan movement be a holiness movement, or is there some new emphasis God is up to... or can holiness be rearticulated in a compelling way that sweeps up the new generation and perhaps even leaves my generation behind and lagging? That wouldn't be so bad. Would be exciting.

-What role are lay people playing? Lay people seem less engaged in what it means to be Wesleyan that at any time in our history. This is largely an ordained persons conversation. That's a sign movement is FAR away.

-Are north American political movements far too strong in the psyche of Wesleyans for us to focus on what matter more? Are our people rallied around those "shared beliefs and common causes" far more than anything our denomination has to do and say, and so the efforts are futile to get them refocused on what matters for eternity?

...Those are my initial tough questions for this august and brilliant group. I trust y'all and would follow ya where you're going. I'm cheering on this conversation.

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